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please note: the texts and seminar topic list have not yet been fully edited. They should be available by 1st Feb 08. /GC

Disk 1 Track 1 (20m 02s)
Astrology as a form of divination 5:50
Wisdom practice 7:20 >
Katarche defined 8 >
Concept of initiatives
Augural basis for astrology
Augury vs proto-science
A form of 'synchronicity reading' 11 >
Branches of the katarche 12 >
Transitory nature of horary 13
Katarche (and horary) reflect the desire of the soul (Eros) 13:48
Decumbiture method 14 >
Elections/inceptions
Katarche as a ritual term 17

Track 2 (18m 18s)
Modern horary and its problems 1:09 real-isation slide
Moment of Astrology thesis 2:50
Astrology is a mind/consciousness agent 3 >
Horary believed to be Arabic in the late renaissance period.
Bonatti 10 >>
(audience asks about Ibn Ezra)
the 'three motions' as a central doctrine of horary first Bonatti slide
Horary must matter / querent should be moved to enact it
Problem of slight and soul-less nature of much modern horary 16
(audience asks how one knows when to ask the question)
(check 16:28 'light and sudden?)
Choosing the moment in the flux of transitory thought and transitory symbolic reflections 17

Track 3
second Bonatti slide 18:15
?Danger of imposition of horary upon a client

Understanding radicality 3:25 >> (see also T4 16:18)
Contrast of understanding of radicality in horary as opposed to natal
Dump non-radical horaries dump horary slide 5:20

Development of modern horary 7 >>
Lilly show Lilly slide 10:30
Lilly's Christian Astrology

Horary is about SIGNS, not CAUSES 13:18
Fate and Free Will discussed

Detailed discussion of Lilly's Fish Stolen horary Fish Stolen

Track 5

Unusable significators - Derek Appleby (example in Fish Stolen)

Disk 2

Track 1 (11:41)

Unusable significators cont.
discussing fish stolen
discretion together with Art 2 >>
using commonsense with horary symbolism 3
audience: does Jupiter describe the thief? 3:40
a stroke of genius re. Mars 4:30
Lilly waits for the Full Moon 6 >
lights bring to light 7-11
katarchic move NOT a prediction 8
guidance for the beginner re. Moon 8
simple perfection in dynamic astrology 9
planets pass light 9,10
katarche/initiative 11

Track 2 (21:09)

definition of 'modern traditional' horary practice 1
distinguished from purely modern or hard traditional
question of modern planets 2
terminology can be forbidding 3
Elias Ashmole 4
religious magical orientation 5
Ashmole on natural magic, judicial astrology and the philosopher's s tone 5
astrology in a Path formation
can we trust astrologers? 6
Lilly has a magical basis to his practice of astrology 6
need to have a good philosophical and astrol base 6 >
otherwise weird astrology
critique by Ashmole 7 >
swarm of pretenders 8
quacking with terms 9
judgment in horary sepends on good groun in all astrology 10
illusion of powerful technique in horary
horary not a substitute for the rest of astrology 11
prediction
water and fire practice 11>
modern natal is water form 12
danger of fire practice
why do you desire to practice a strong form ? 12
audience: is it strong because it hurts querent? 13:20
clairvoyant results happen around horary
tantra comparison 14
practice of maps of the moment 15
horary approach is a brilliant way of looking at brainwave moments
but requires discrimination in the 'sea of moments'
problem of light practice 16
but we have to play 16
learn to discard anything that doesn't match the depth of the situation 17
what is the right moment for a horary? 17
this is not a technical question it is a ritual question 17 >
appropriateness
style of practice 18
GC suggestions for email work 18>
horary emerging within natal practice 19
when the astrologer understands the question 19 >
walking ephemeris problem 20
= cooking the horary

Track 3 (24:47)

audience: moment of client's awareness as a horary moment?
participation of the astrologer is crucial 1
symbolic universe means it is happrning all the time 1

horary is a ritual method of bringing these into focus
which is why one needs a good practice in the symbolic
audience: do hyou distinguish between receiving and understanding the question? 2:30
double-thinking required by astrologer 3
using the place of the person gives interesting reflections 3
radicality o/h 4
M.E.Jones on fine and coarse grained horary, but also shallow 4-5
Carter on the daimon 5 >
how one is guided in horary
astrolger builds up a storng intelligent force
d of both comes together 6
organisation right for training 7

map discussed
desire of the soul - this matters 9
audience do you consider the conjunction a favourable aspect 9:53
general rule on the conjunction in traditional horary
keep hyour horary fairly distinct from your natal 10
New Moon dangerous in the katrarche 11
trine and sextile of the lights is good fortune
no surgery on Full Moon 12
find the querent 12
key task - find the house of the questied 12:50 >
let the radical chart guide hyou when you can't tell which (say of 6 or 10) 13
in a radical horary the symbolism will interlock and you can go several ways through to an anser 14
audience

quick note of map order:
after lunch: ? Disk 3 one tiny track

Disk 4
Appleby
Rosa
change of course
track 4
Lilly's Key (not shown in seminar)
relp with Andrew
nature cure
Plato
(mention DA tarot)
Path horary